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  1. HandyAndy

    HandyAndy Well-Known Member

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    Ahh with that type of problem I can see why one would have a hard time trying to justify the ownership and expense of a "hobby" like a station wagon.
     
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    Sorry Andy, I missed something: what problem? :)
     
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    Norman, I forgot to thank you for your invaluable links!!!

    Thanks!!!!
     
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    Overcrowding in large cities.

    For instance you can take the entire country of France and multiply the area by 43 times and not counting the lakes and the St. Lawrence River, have all 43 copies of France inside the Province of Quebec, in Canada. That still leaves 9 Provinces and 3 territories. Quebec's population is around 10,000,000 compared to France's 80 or 84 million. Our big cities face the same kind of issues, Montreal, Toronto, Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton. Canada has a poplutation of 34 million, which is smaller than some Asian and Latin American cities. You can imagine how much freer that sardines feel like, swimming where they want. :biglaugh::evilsmile:
     
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    Norman, I got it.

    Many Italians in Canada too.

    Any chance that you (Italian)-Canadians can offer me a job there? I'd really like to have a future, a thing that currently I don't have here...
     
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    As they say at the meat-market, Take a number. We're a long way from employing the people that lost their jobs in 2007 and 2008 and 2009 because of this recession/depression/crisis. It could be 5 or more years before we're back up to a national umployment rate of 6 to 6.2%, from about 8.4% (That's only those who qualify to collect unemployment benefits for 6 months. In fact it is more like 12% to 15% unemployment.

    In Canada, you know that its a bad time when the Army can get more young people to join.
     
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    In Italy, we add to the Army, the police forces (Polizia, Carabinieri and Guarda di Finanza).

    Understood!
     
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    :Welcome:dbev...sorry im so late to the party..:D
    .....and....i actually quite enjoy your phrasing of the language..;)

    so...im curious...if all the planets aligned....what is your wagon desire?
     
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    Thanks!

    Well, either a 1978 Mercury Colony Park or a 1978 Ford LTD Country Squire.

    What about my phrasing? :)
     
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    see?.....he likes Ford n Merc.....nothing wrong here(y)

    phrasing?...i like the way your keyboard spits out the words:)
     
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    Jim 68cuda Well-Known Member

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    So, a builder needs to make a profit just to stay in business, but for every house built to be sold, the builder has to build a second house to give to the city so the city can give the house to someone who can't afford it, plus the builder has to contribute to public transportation infrastructure. That means every home buyer is paying for two houses plus the infrastructure cost in addition to what ever taxes they have to pay. Thats pretty scarry.
    Here, the builders frequently have to include low income housing in their developments, but I don't think they have to give housing to the city. They still sell the low income housing and hopefully either break even or make some profit on it. They sometimes contribute to the infrastructure (roads, schools etc), but that part may vary by the size of the community and its location. Remind me never to move to Paris. I couldn't afford to buy one house for the price of two, so someone else could live in the second house for free or at low cost.
    I think I would want to live as far away from that kind of community as possible. Maybe I'm selfish, but I don't think I should have to pay for two houses if I only want to buy one. You know the builder can't afford to just give away all those houses either, so there is no doubt the ones who buy houses are paying for the free houses. I guess its a good deal for the "people in need" half of the population. Half the population has to work to earn enough money to pay for the housing for the other half of the population. Doesn't quite seem fair does it?
    I do agree that the infrastructure should be paid for by the builder who would then pass that cost along to the home buyer. Living in an older neighborhood in a rapidly growing area, I remember the shock a few years back when we found out our taxes were going way up because the county had to build 21 new schools over a seven year period to meet the demand of the rapidly growing population. The developers contributed partially to the cost of building the new schools, but our higher taxes had to pay for the salaries for all the added staff and all the equipment, school buses and more, in addition to much of the cost of the school construction. I think the developers and all the new arrivals moving in should have to pay for the new infrastructure needed to support them.
    I would apologize for being off topic, but most of this thread from the start has pretty much been about infrastructure and who pays for it directly or indirectly.
     
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