Wow, what a response thanks. Yea I've already planned on replacing the peanut tranny with a heavy duty 3 speed. I know a four speed would be trick, but she is so stock and original that I just can't bear to cut holes in the floor for a shifter. So as weird as it sounds, the heavy duty 3 speed goes in and she will remain a three on the tree. I found a Chevrolet salesman's catalog for 62 at a swap meet (lucky or what?) and the three on the column behind a 409 was an option. So anyway, thanks for the replies. Red Ripper
The HD 3-speed I believe was a Muncie, and even had a 1st gear synchro - like the 4-speed, had the internal fork that rode in a ridge and contacted the synchro almost 180 degrees apart, in two places. The one in there now, the fork is about an inch wide, and pushes a ring on the synchro that's about 1/8 thick, in one spot. Hurst linkage made it very easy to break that ring, putting the broken piece in the gears! Big, loud crunch!!!
I read in a Pontiac forum where GM bought trannies from Ford during trannie plant strikes at GM plants. The Ford trannies were supposedly cut out for the job
I like that idea. I have a truck with a 3-speed that was moved to the floor and I am thinking of gathering the linkage to move back to column, I like the 3 on the tree and really like the idea of a 409 in front of it!
Little off the subject but the 6 speed auto tranny in the Dodge Dart is Hyundia. My knowledge is limited (on everything ) but it's not uncommon or unheard of to source parts from others.
Mitsubishi, which was Chrysler-owned, supplied engine technology to Hyndai. I doubt that Japanese cars use foreign-built components for vehicles sold on their home market, though
I'm not so sure about the Dart using a Hyundai transmission, as Hyundai doesn't make their own. I believe they buy them from an outside supplier. Also, if I heard correctly, the Dart is based on a European Fiat body and mechanical package, so they are more likely to be using a ZF transmission. As for the heavy duty 3 speed behind the 409, in 62 Chevrolet built one Impala 4 door sedan with the 409 and the heavy duty 3 speed behind it, as the original owner's wife did not want a floor shift. That car still exists in original condition.
Why would my Dodge dealer send me to a Chrysler training at Chrysler training center on Hyundai transmissions? Google (I didn't but sure it has info) Sorry about being off subject again, I do apologize because I really do dig the 409 wagon and as I stated like the idea of the 3 on the tree!
Probably, because Dodge plans to buy the next trannies from Hyundai and want's you to be prepared to do warranty work on them