Rare find 62 Belair wagon w/409

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  1. redripper

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    Wow, what a response thanks. Yea I've already planned on replacing the peanut tranny with a heavy duty 3 speed. I know a four speed would be trick, but she is so stock and original that I just can't bear to cut holes in the floor for a shifter. So as weird as it sounds, the heavy duty 3 speed goes in and she will remain a three on the tree. I found a Chevrolet salesman's catalog for 62 at a swap meet (lucky or what?) and the three on the column behind a 409 was an option.
    So anyway, thanks for the replies.
    Red Ripper
     
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    65 2dr Fix 'em all -

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    The HD 3-speed I believe was a Muncie, and even had a 1st gear synchro - like the 4-speed, had the internal fork that rode in a ridge and contacted the synchro almost 180 degrees apart, in two places.
    The one in there now, the fork is about an inch wide, and pushes a ring on the synchro that's about 1/8 thick, in one spot.
    Hurst linkage made it very easy to break that ring, putting the broken piece in the gears! Big, loud crunch!!!
     
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    Hanswurst von Plumpskloh Prisoner of Foo

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    I read in a Pontiac forum where GM bought trannies from Ford during trannie plant strikes at GM plants. The Ford trannies were supposedly cut out for the job
     
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    :thumbs2: I like that idea. I have a truck with a 3-speed that was moved to the floor and I am thinking of gathering the linkage to move back to column, I like the 3 on the tree and really like the idea of a 409 in front of it!
     
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    Little off the subject but the 6 speed auto tranny in the Dodge Dart is Hyundia. My knowledge is limited (on everything :rofl2:) but it's not uncommon or unheard of to source parts from others. ;)
     
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    ModelT1 Still Lost in the 50's

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    A specialist is someone who knows a lot about a little. I know little about a lot of things...!:rofl2:
     
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    Hanswurst von Plumpskloh Prisoner of Foo

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    Mitsubishi, which was Chrysler-owned, supplied engine technology to Hyndai.
    I doubt that Japanese cars use foreign-built components for vehicles sold on their home market, though
     
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    I'm not so sure about the Dart using a Hyundai transmission, as Hyundai doesn't make their own. I believe they buy them from an outside supplier. Also, if I heard correctly, the Dart is based on a European Fiat body and mechanical package, so they are more likely to be using a ZF transmission.

    As for the heavy duty 3 speed behind the 409, in 62 Chevrolet built one Impala 4 door sedan with the 409 and the heavy duty 3 speed behind it, as the original owner's wife did not want a floor shift. That car still exists in original condition.
     
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    Why would my Dodge dealer send me to a Chrysler training at Chrysler training center on Hyundai transmissions? Google (I didn't but sure it has info)

    Sorry about being off subject again, I do apologize because I really do dig the 409 wagon and as I stated like the idea of the 3 on the tree!
     
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    65 2dr Fix 'em all -

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    I rented a Dart for a weekend trip - never again!
     
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    Hanswurst von Plumpskloh Prisoner of Foo

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    Probably, because Dodge plans to buy the next trannies from Hyundai and want's you to be prepared to do warranty work on them
     
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