Yeah, Pontiac "stretched the truth" when it came to their artist's renderings, but there's no denying that this is one absolutely gorgeous wagon! David
Bigbarneycars (Jerry) wanted me to post up this pic of his '61 Chrysler new Yorker Town & Country. I certainly agree that this is one beautiful wagon. heck, it's a beautiful car, period. And his engine compartment is so good-looking, here's a picture of it.... Here's Jer's intro thread where the pics came from - more pics there..... http://www.stationwagonforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8522
Thanks Marshall Some day I'll get educated on the finer points of 'Puter stuff. Even I haven't seen the Beast since late September. I shipped it to eastern Pa. for some induction work and some other tweeking. Probably won't see it 'til Chryslers at Carlisle in July. Wagons Ho, Jerry
From the "ugly cars" thread I hope you don't mind lowlow37 that I answered your questions from the "ugly cars thread" here in the pretty cars thread but I thought that the cars that I needed to answer your questions where more worthy of this thread taking the other thread too far off topic. It's surprising how many Aussie built sedans and wagons have a V8, but really we adopted the 6 cyl as the must have power train for econmy and reliability in Australia. However we have just gone through a decade of V8's with the popular Commodore including SS getting the 5.7 Ls1 and 6.0 L96 but the HSV range got the 5.7, Ls1, 6.0 Ls2 and 6.2 Ls3, which is the current V8 on offer now. The US got the 2 door version as GTO and then the 4 door version (the VE) as the G8 until they pulled the pin on Pontiac. Ford in Australia made use of the 5.0 EFI Windsor until they stopped building it and were actually caught short without a) replacement for the weezer and b) something that would match the then current Corvette engine powered Commodore. The solution was to use the 5.4 truck engine but to get it up to where the V8 Commodore was already, they needed to create a quad cam head set up. All of this engineering was done in Australia and the end result, just like the old "cammer" from the 60's, was it was too tall to stick under the hood so they had to press a bulge into it to get the hood to shut. This created the XR8. This came in as a sedan and ute only, no wagon. Compared to the LSX series of V8's Holden, the Ford engine was too heavy and too tall to be as popular as the Holden. The answer lay in the upcoming Miami Mustang 5.0 V8 engine. Ford Aus took this engine and put a factory supercharger on it offered it only through FPV (Ford Performance Vehicles) and now it is kick ass!, but unfortunately too little too late as they again dropped the V8 out of the mums and dads regular Falcon cars, something they also did when they dropped the Cleveland out of the Falcon in 1983 after the oil shocks of 1979. That is when the Windsor made a come back in a Falcon in around 1992. Ford loyalists stayed true but Ford lost a generation of V8 rev heads to Holden, and have been playing catch up for popularity ever since. The yellow one is a HSV E3 (VE) 325 kw NA 6.2 Ls3 GTS and the blue one is a FPV (FG) 335 kw (factory super charged) 5.0 GT The Granada is a close relative to the XD series Falcon. Thes came with either a 4.0 I6 or 302 and 351 Cleveland V8. I think it was (along with Granada), part of the then GRWD program under "Black Bird". The Premier
The Lamborghini Miura is probably the most beautiful of the Italian supercars. This is hard to watch. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqpa1HB-wOc David
I had forgotten about that Miura. I don't think the Lambo folks ever bested that one in the style department. mike