information on large station wagons with wood panels

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  1. jaunty75

    jaunty75 Middling Member

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    I'm sorry, but this grows more absurd by the minute.

    If this is such a serious matter, why is it only now being pursued, 36 years later? Didn't the police give it all they could, including tracking any lead they might have had at the time on a "large, cream-colored station wagon?"

    Second, why on earth would you think that ANYTHING from 1979, victim's belongings or not, would still be in the car after all these years? Owner's manual and other stuff that goes with the car, maybe. But I've seen many junkyard cars, and none of them contained stuff that was left behind in the car by prior owners when the junkyard acquired it. They clean that stuff out right away.

    If the car is not in a junkyard but is actually currently owned by someone, there is no way they would still keep in the car something that was in it from a prior owner, especially one from many years before.

    Unless this car has been sitting at the bottom of a ravine or on the floor of a lake untouched for 36 years, there is no way it still has anything in it that was in it in 1979.


    And I've said earlier, you're asking for help, but you've given us essentially zero information to go on. I contend you wouldn't know if you had the right car even if it was sitting right in front of you because you have no identifying marks to go by. You don't know the make, the model, the VIN, anything. You're not even sure of the color. You're apparently assuming you'll be able to look in the window, see the victim's sweatshirt on the back seat, and decide it's the car you're look for. Good luck with that.

    Given that it won't have anything in that was in it in 1979, how would you go about establishing that it's the car in question? The only thing I can think of is to give it to the police or the FBI and let them look for old blood stains or hairs belonging to the victim or something like this that I've seen on Law and Order.

    But how would you even get started on something like this? Let's say you actually found a cream-colored, pre-1980 station wagon that you knew was in Livingston, New York in November 1979. This is a very huge "if", by the way. What are you going to do? Go up to the owner, tell him that his car is possibly one involved in a crime in 1979, and you're going to report his car to the police? I'd like to be a fly on the wall for that conversation.

    Or perhaps you're just going to jot down the license number, phone the police, and let them handle it. Can they get a search warrant to seize the car based on the flimsy evidence that it's the right color and was in the area in 1979? Given that your description could include any year car up to and including 1979, this is hardly convincing evidence. Maybe a judge would grant the warrant, but then again he might laugh it out of his court, and even if the warrant were granted, it might be possible for the car's owner to fight it based on the flimsiness of the evidence. I know I wouldn't necessarily be thrilled to see my newly-restored pride and joy hauled off to some warehouse somewhere for the police to tear apart and pore over. I might not see the car for months or years, and who knows what condition it would be in when I got it back.

    I appreciate your interest in solving a crime, but the way you're going about it now, you're on what's known as a fool's errand.
     
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    charismatina87 New Member

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    I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF ANY KIND-HEART PEOPLE WOULD HELP ME IN MY QUEST TO SOLVE A 36 YEAR OLD CRIME. PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE INFORMATION ON HOW JUNK YARDS OR SCRAP YARDS INVENTORY VEHICLES. I NEED TO FIND OUT THIS INFORMATION FROM FLORIDA AREA TO NEW YORK STATE. I NEED TO KNOW HOW MANY CREAM COLOR OR TAN COLOR "LARGE" STATION WAGONS WITH WOOD PANELS WERE JUNKED OR SCRAPPED AND THE LOCATION. THANK YOU. BELOW IS A DESCRIPTION OF A POSSIBLE PERSON OF INTEREST,( PLEASE SEE JANE DOE CALEDONIA,N.Y. FBI INFORMATION FOR A COMPOSITE).
    Race: White
    Sex: Male
    Height: 5’8” – 5’9”
    Clothing: Black wire-rimmed glasses, plaid shirt
    Vehicle: Tan station wagon with side paneling
     
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    Uh, nice to meet you too and welcome to the forum. Don't you know that posting in ALL CAPS LIKE THIS IS CONSIDERED TO BE SHOUTING AND RUDE ON THE INTERNET? Look, we're not against your attempts here but what little information you have here is like seeking for a needle not just in a haystack that can fit in a barn but a whole thousand square mile-haystack that's a thousand feet high. Now, that's a lot of hay. I'm sure the needle can be found after enough searching if it is there, but could you please narrow it down a bit? Do you know if the car was a Ford or a G.M. or something else?
     
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    Please contact the original poster directly if you have any information.
     
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