84 grand wagoneer (wife's wagon)

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  1. Silvertwinkiehobo

    Silvertwinkiehobo "Everything that breaks starts with 'F.'"

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    That would show up on the gears. If they're still within spec, I'd fully disassemble the pump down to the pressure valve innards and look there. We used to soak everything in the gunk tank. Now that I don't have one available anymore, I clean parts up the best I can. Then run them through the dishwasher which isn't a good idea for aluminum. But, I doubt that AMC would use a metal which would be more expensive than metal used by the bigger 3. I don't know how his wife would react to forced parts integration for the dishwasher. But, I don't have these problems anymore, since I'm now the dishwasher's one and only dictator
     
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    She would probably rather I brought another project home..
     
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    That's strange how wives tend to think about washing parts which are virtually bacteria-free. I suppose, if you were to give them a choice between sticking a an intake manifold or a toilet seat into the machine, alongside dishes, forks and water glasses, they'd choose the seat. I suppose, I could feel lucky about living alone and not eating at restaurants
     
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    In her defense, I used to work on heavy equipment out in the field and got my cloths pretty grimy. She let me was them in the washing machine once, and the machine was never the same again. I ended up taking it apart and cleaning out all of the hidden grease and oil. Then, I started washing my work cloths at the laundromat.
     
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    The clothes were washed too cold. That's tricky about the machines you have, over there. You have to rely on the water heater. Over here, the machines heat up their own water. That way, you can boil grimy clothes, without worrying about the machine cooling down hot tap water
     
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    Timing set was in time, but stretched/ worn enough to be out of time when rotated. And to keep up with the rest of the luck I've had on this jeep, I broke most of the water pump bolts off in the timing cover. And, the water pump was worn. So, more parts to buy. Money is getting tight. So, I'm not sure where we go from here, or how fast. Best case scenario is I will be able to get the bolts out of the timing cover and re use that. Meaning I will only have to buy a timing set, water pump, and gasket set. I already purchased the oil pan gasket set so no cost there, but the y pipe has a rust hole and those studs broke too. So, stand by I guess.
     
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    That lower sprocket doesen't look bad. As with bicycles and motorcycles, you could mount a new chain on old sprockets. But, not the other way around
     
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    That would save 20 bucks, if you think it would work proper enough. If I can get the bolts out of the timing cover, then I will be in good shape. If not, I'll have to figure out where some money comes from.
     
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    From the photo you've just uploaded, it looks like the bolts haven't broken off in the block itself. I assume that the timing cover is made of aluminum. If so, you must mean that the bolt heads are busted off and the remaining stems are frozen into the cover casting. If so, I'd soak the stems repititiously in either brake fluid or penetrating oil. After a couple days, you could drive them out with a hammer and punch
     
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    Silvertwinkiehobo "Everything that breaks starts with 'F.'"

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    If the cam sprocket is steel, and the gear teeth are not worn into 'spikes,' then yes, you can just throw on a chain. But if the gear was aluminum/nylon, not a chance, you'll need the full set.
     
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    You could use a Dremel with a small bit to make slots in the broken studs for a screwdriver (I did this to adjust a weed eater's carburetor though it took maybe 45 minutes on those small screws, maybe I'm just slow at it.) After that, soak the studs in Liquid Wrench for a day or two. Don't force it too hard.

    If the studs aren't broken inside the block, maybe use vice grips. Still, use the Liquid Wrench (or Ultralube if you have it EDIT: On second thought, don't; Ultralube gums up eventually.) Maybe heat up Liquid Wrench first to give it an easier time climbing into the threads.
     
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    Silvertwinkiehobo "Everything that breaks starts with 'F.'"

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    Stuck in the block, or the cover? I once had to beat a 351W cover mercilessly to pieces, because leaked coolant got into the space between the bolt shanks and cover holes, causing them to lock up and I snapped the heads off. Funny thing was, the last stuck bolt shank...it was able to unscrew from the block! So 1 timing cover off my Bronco's broken engine later....
     
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    On second thought, don't use Ultralube for this job; it gums up eventually.
     
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    All of the bolts came out of the timing cover easily with a little heat wrench and some vise grips. The local napa store gave me a great price on the y pipe, timing set, and timing cover gaskets. So, we're on a roll again. Painting the timing cover, all pulleys and balancer, and oil pan black tomorrow while doing struts on the mother in laws car. Then, back after it. Might be hooking up the wood stove in the shop too. It's getting cold..
     
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