Looks like right out of the showroom. https://buffalo.craigslist.org/cto/d/1986-pontiac-grand-prix-le/6340986387.html
There seems to be an issue with the trunk lid. In all the photos that show it, it's not down all the way. At first I thought he just lowered it most of the way to take the photo because he had it up because the car was at a show, but one of the photos is not at a car show, and there'd be no reason to have the lid up.
I see what you are saying but I think the seller just had the trunk ajar in all the photos for some reason, may be hard to open or close. Very nice example, possibly the best I have seen in years, bit $16,000? really?
Why are you an apologist for this seller? Is he your brother-in-law? If the trunk lid is difficult to open or close, he should say so in the ad if he wants that kind of money. One photo with the trunk lid ajar I can see. But three? Without explanation? No. And "difficult" to open or close does not mean it can't be closed at all. If it can't be at all, that is a serious issue.
I'm not apologizing for the seller, I don't know why people take such bad pictures and post them in there for sale ad's. I also don't know why people assume the trunk doesn't close because there are no pictures posted with it fully closed? I don't think we would assume the trunk didn't open if there were no pictures of it open, or doors or hood for that matter.
This is a silly argument. The reason we don't suspect a problem if we don't see the trunk or doors or hood opened is because being closed is the normal state for these things. People open the trunk or the door or the hood in car ads to show us what the trunk looks like or what the engine bay looks like or what the inside of the door looks like. Otherwise, they close them when they're photographing the car. In the current situation. it's not that the trunk is not open that's the problem, but rather that the trunk lid is ajar. If an ad for a car for sale showed multiple photos of, say, the passenger side door, like in the photo below, and in every one of them the door was ajar like this, then yes, it would be reasonable to have a similar suspicion, that there's a problem with the door and it doesn't close all the way. Maybe there isn't a problem and the seller is just careless. But it's enough to raise a suspicion, especially, as in the case of this Pontiac, where the photos were taken at different times in different places. The top and bottom photos above were clearly at car shows, but two different car shows because in one case the car is on pavement, and in the other, it's on grass. The middle photo is taken at what looks like a car dealership, but regardless of where it was taken, it's a different location than the other two. So we have three photos taken at three different times in three different places, all showing the trunk lid ajar. On top of this, he has no photos showing the trunk lid fully closed when it would be an easy matter to do so. It's not unreasonable to question what's going on.
Not taking sides with this argument but making an observation based on the first picture... if that is the same car the trunk lid is fully closed, because there's no visible gap near the complete rear end, which there would be if the trunk was ajar. As for why the guy can't take a decent rear end photo? God knows.
What first picture are you talking about? The first picture of the three I show above? In this photo, the trunk lid is clearly ajar. There are gaps everywhere. If you're referring to the first picture in the ad itself, which is the one at the top of this page, we can't see the back end at all. If there's another first picture that shows what you're talking about, please show it to us. Also, there's no "sides" to be taken here. I'm not saying the trunk lid can't be closed, I'm just saying that the fact that all of the photos that show it show it slightly ajar is a little unusual and raises a question. If cammerjeff doesn't want to acknowledge this possibility, fine. I'm willing to acknowledge that the trunk lid probably does close all the way and what we're seeing is just a quirk. But apparently cammerjeff is not willing to meet me half way and extend that same consideration to my argument that it's not unreasonable to question what we're seeing. As I said, fine.
I agree that there's no evidence of the trunk lid not down all the way in this photo, but this is not a very good photo to really judge this one way or the other. The angle of the photo is really too low to be sure. We need one photo showing definitively that the trunk lid closes all the way, and we don't have it. Another cause for suspicion is the very fact that these photos in the ad are clearly from at least five different locations. There's at least two different car shows, the one that looks like it's near a car dealer, one taken in his driveway with the trophy in front of it, and one by the waterfront. (There's actually a sixth location if you count the interior photos as one of them shows that the car was in a garage when it was taken.) That, too, is unusual in for sale ads as most of the time all of the photos are taken at the same time. We don't know which of these photos are recent, which are older, and how much time elapsed between the oldest and the newest. For all we know, the waterfront photos are older, the cars show photos are newer, and the trunk lid problem is a recent development. Or it could be the other way around. Just sayin'.
Looks every bit as nice and $6k less. Also has cornering lamps. https://madison.craigslist.org/cto/d/1985-pontiac-grand-prix-le/6271311305.html
It's certainly gorgeous, and the way the reflection on the lower body goes, makes it look like it has tu-tone paint.
It does have the rarely seen 2 tone paint in gray, like this brown example. was a one year option on the LE Model I believe it
