Tailgate window motor replacement

They design this stuff to never be below the trim or panel, so when you put the panel back on, it's covered. It's when you drill through the panel that you cause all kinds of hate and discontent.

 

I did Patrick......... I did replace the windowmotor. As you know I have the same car as you have. You have to "empty"the whole talegate. Everything has to come out. I've made some pictures of it. It took me 8 hours for the whole replacement and you have to be with 2 persons. Do not drill holes in order to get your broken motor out. You will not be able to replace it without having the whole mechanism in your hand.


The picture above shows you the black metal plate on which the motor is mounted. I took the time to remove the rust and to grease al moving parts.
Seriously, it is a lot of work. I discovered that you have to know how the mechanism works in order to be able to repair it. I learned a lot about it, even how to cut my hands and fingers more than 20 times a day. If you were nearby I would have helped you.

 

(Sorry for the "bad" English").....
The red arrows shows you the bolts of the vertical conductors. Remove them. The yellow arrow shows you the hole where the whole mechanism has to come out.
It is the only way to be able to replace the motor. Simply remove all nuts and bolt you see but only if you understand how moving the rear window works. Mark the parts that has to be replaced in the same position. You will see them when working on it.
Damn....sorry.....I really would like to help you! It isn't that difficult once you know how to do it.....

If you have any questions: I will follow this topic and hopefully I will be able to answer your questions. Pics will help.....


The red arrow shows you one of the conductors that has to be removed. As you can see I used the “clamps” to hold the window in place. That was very helpful because it is really heavy.

Please, do not drill holes.............

 

The holes ( which are never going to be made!!! ) will be in the red circle. That part of the tailgate will not be covered by the panel. Luckily……

 

Looks like a serious pain in the a$$. Maybe I'll tackle the radio problem first. Thank you for the pictures and explanation!!! I was hoping it was going to be an easy fix, like replacing a door power window motor, on these. It looks like it'll be more time-consuming than anything.

Uw Engels is veel beter dan mijn Nederlands is!

 

That's perfectly written!

Good luck with replacing the motor, take your time! Je kunt het!

 

Let's hope so!

Weird, being gone from NL & GE for nearly 23 years, and what comes back as far as words go, in both languages. I remember German fairly well and Dutch a bit less; and my wife is the opposite! While we were there, we watched the Dutch channels mostly, as they had a lot of American, British and Aussie shows with Dutch subtitles. And of course, watching the game show "Lingo" in Dutch, where I learned most of the five-letter Dutch words I knew!

 

Very nice to read Patrick! Lingo is still on TV now. And yes, people learn
a lot watching the programm. Although the German languages don't have
English influences at all it is nice to know that you and your wife still
remember some words. When I am in the USA talking to American people
I always hear how difficult it is to pronounce the words that are typical Dutch
like "Scheveningen" or typical German which I think is even more uglier than
Dutch. Anyway, nice to read!

 

So I just learned something, but I'd like to think that the motor swap can still be done without removing the regulator. I've broken a couple windows in my time simply because of the stupid designs of some regulators. One thing I would do, though, would be to open the tailgate flat instead of swinging it out. That's how I service truck tailgates (Broncos, Wagoneers, etc.) so that the glass doesn't accidentally fall and shatter. And, if you need the motor to work with the tailgate down, simply close the latch that has the electrical interlock switch to re-energize the circuit.

 

I understand. The thing is that the window did not come out of the tailgate
when I was working on it. It stayed most of the time in the position you can
see on the first picture. That is why using "clamps" is important.

When removing all parts it is necessary to move the
window every now and then by hand.This goes more easy when it is in vertical position
is my experience.

When installing, adjustments can be made more effective with
the tailgate in this position. The mechanism "is ment to be" in vertical position
if you know what I mean......

 

True about those points, but I'm too concerned about gravity, and one of the windows I broke happened because the suction cups I used came off, even though I wet each one. If you give the horizontal way a try, I'm sure you'll agree it has its advantages.

 

My tailgate will NOT function as a tailgate if the window is in the "up" position - it will only open as a door.

 

If you want to work with the tailgate in horizontal position just take the
cover off of the tailgate, close it with someone in the car and let him or her
push the "J" shaped pin down which is down in the middle of the tailgate.
That will release the mechanism to open it as a tailgate. You will find it, that's why
it is important to understand how it all works in there. Now the car "thinks" that
the window is down .

And yes, working horizontally has its advantages. Vertically did it for me.
Good luck Patrick!

 

I've done several Ford window repairs, and there should be two dimples behind the panel. You'll have to guess at the third hole, and it'll be below the panel without a dimple. I used duct tape to seal mine.
You'll need to drill 3 1/2" holes, and use a 1/4' wrench with the socket packed with grease to get the assembly out.
The bottom hole only shows when the door is open.
There may be some sort of plastic plug that would make the job look more professional available, if you look around.
I have to ask: are you're SURE the motor is gone? If it whirrs when you turn the key, you probably need only replace the same three plastic buttons that are in all window motors.
You still have to remove it, but you'll save a lot of money.
And no you DO NOT have to remove the regulator. Swing the door open from the side with the glass in the up position and treat it just like the drivers side door.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2Xbs0ke8TY

 

It is fairly simple. At least it was on my '85 and '88.
You don't have to do anything to the regulator, unless it's broken (unlikely),
Just remove the three bolts holding the motor assembly in place, and wiggle it out.
You may give a little blood in the process, but it isn't very difficult.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xynPPbtSqQ