Mopar OEM Style Steel Rim Question

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  1. Blue66TC

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    I'm looking to go with 15x7" rims and 235/75r15 radials for my 66TC. I found these two and was wondering if anyone knew what the differences were.

    These are OEM style rims -

    The first one has just 5 stud holes - which is what you'd normally see (I think).

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    The second one has additional smaller holes in between the stud holes. Does anyone know what these holes are for?

    Perhaps a centering pin?

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    The smaller holes will hold a bolt in wheel center like from a dodge rally or road wheel.

    Have you thought of 225 70 15 for a better feel/ride?
     
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    I don't know what you mean or referring to "hold a bolt in wheel center?" I don't know anything about the dodge rally or road wheel other than perhaps how they look.

    My wagon came with 14" rims and the original tire size was 9.00x14 which had a 28.68" overall diameter.

    Currently the fronts have H7814 with a OD of 28.10" & the rears have 225/70r14 with an OD of 26.30". As you can see, the size difference lowers the car 2" and just doesn't look right. Bias ply sidewalls are taller whereas radial sidewalls have a flattened appearance. Also whether they're bias ply or radials in a 14" size, the prices are extremely expensive.

    I'm switching over to 15" due to size availability and cost which is nearly 1/2 the price of 14" tires.

    235/75r15's have an OD of 28.90"
    235/70r15's have an OD of 28.00"

    I want to keep hubcaps on the car and am thinking rather than buy regular 15" steel rims to get the 15" rallye wheels. Not only are they the same price, but I can would be able to change the look on the fly by simply removing the hubcap and installing the Rallye center cap and trim ring - Whaala I have a differnt wheel! A 15x7" Rallye wheel should accomodate a standard 15" hubcap so I would have the best of both worlds at the fraction of the cost of having two sets of rims. I'm keeping the 14x6.5" originals in case I sell it and someone wants to go back to original.

    The load ratings of all the presented tires would defininitely affect the ride -

    8.55x14 - 1740 @ 32psi
    9.00x14 - 1860 @ 32psi
    225/70r15 - 1753 @ 35psi
    235/70r15 - 1896 @ 35psi
    235/75r15 - 2028 @ 35psi

    That's a big 280psi difference between the H7814's I have now and what I'm looking to get....
     
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    joe_padavano Well-Known Member

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    The largest stock tires on this car would have been 9.00x14, which were about 28.6" in diameter. The 235/75-15s are 28.9" in diameter, which is about the closest available size. 225/70-15s are about 27.5" in diameter. That's a big difference - over 1" SMALLER than stock and almost 1.5" smaller than what's on there today. Not a recommended switch in my opinion.

    I'm also curious as to why you think the 225/70 tires will provide a better ride? they have a shorter sidewall, so ride will be harsher. In addition, they are 10mm narrower, so it isn't clear that "feel" will be improved, however you define that term. Yes, shorter sidewalls tend to improve handling, but that assumes width is the same.
     
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    You might consider a set of Mopar police/taxi rims. They really looked great painted body color, with a stock dog dish or baby moon cap and trim ring. They had brake cooling slots around the inside and came in 15 inch by 7 inches wide. Be advised, the factory trim rings were a little different than after market ones, so make sure if you want them to get the ones made for that rim.
     
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    Thanks Dodgeguy for the suggestion. I did see a 66TC with that setup and although it looked nice it wasn't the look I was going for.

    I threw around the idea of getting some Polished American 15x7 Torque Thrust II's, but decided I wanted to keep the car as close to original in terms of appearance. With the Torque Thrust II's it would have looked more like a classic Hot Rod (which would have looked pretty trick), but with hubcaps it would retain more of it's classic features.

    Although Mopar included Chrysler, Dodge & Plymouth I don't think there was any true alternate wheel style that was Chrysler only. Standard 15" OEM rims run about $100 each plus shipping. I then found Summit Racing selling 15x7 Mopar Rallye Wheels (mostly seen on Cuda's) for $99 with FREE SHIPPING. Since it's a 15" I could run it with a Stock Hubcap or if I wanted to change the look all I would need to do is pop off the hubcaps and install the trim rings and center caps.

    I welcome any other suggestions -
     
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    That is for the rallye wheel center caps. 71-74 Challenger and others before or since. This style:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-Dodge-...r_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item51c68161a6

    I don't like them on regular steel wheels myself. They look great on actual rallye wheels. I'm sure there are other centers that would work. I had a set of bolt-on center caps on a 1988 Dodge Shadow I once owned. One came loose and made a horrible racket, I took it off for awhile, then WD-40'd the bolts and put it back on tighter, and it was fine after that. I'd rather use small dog dish caps myself. Not so easy on FWD cars or other models that don't have tabs to hold them.
     
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    The '70-up Rallye wheels look like crap on early cars!!! My opinion, granted; but true.

    I agree on the 15" cop wheels - there are several different styles of Mopar cop caps from 1967 through 1988 that look great on these wheels. You can also use the center caps from a 15" Chrysler Road Wheel (available only on the big "C"-bodies), as there are a variety of those, too, that will bolt on the Cop wheels.

    As pointed out earlier, those small holes in that example you pictured are for the fasteners that hold the center cap to the wheel. They attach from the rear of the wheel.

    [​IMG]15" Chrysler Road Wheel
     
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    You could also go with a wheel that was available when your T&C was new, and that is the Magnum 500. They seem to look good any anything!
     

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