Green Car Projects Funding in Canada

Something to think about:

http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/transportation/afo/index.cfm?attr=8

I already filled out the survey to say they should have an owner forum so folks can share their tips to make their cars more fuel efficient and less threatening to the environment.

What about a Green SiteCar Project???

If experience counts, we've got lots of guys who have the nicks and cuts to prove it.

 

Great Idea. I'm all for making our cars cleaner so we can keep them and not be forced to give them up like a lot of states here are trying to do.

 

The Godfather line applies here: "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer."

In this case use the Federal funding to start a Green GasGuzzler Site and build a greener car from some 1975 Town and Country Brougham 440 monster, share ideas and tips, Could be a sister site to this, funded by the Canadian government's EPA and maybe the US EPA.

 

I'm having a hard time deciding on a new engine for my wagon. I know I want fuel injection so I have 2 choices. a newer SBC LT-1 or a Ram Jet 502.

Now as far as a non fuel injection engine I only have one choice. And I'll have to do a lot of research on this option since it's my first choice.This was done on a 65 or 66 Impala SS on a Tv show called PIMP MY RIDE. They put in a Chevrolet Dynomax Diesel with dual turbo's which ran on Bio-Diesel and did a actual drag race with the car against a Lambo which it left the Lambo sitting like it was chained to a pole. For the interior they used Hemp material to cover the seats and headliner.

On another show called Wrecks to Riches they built a green car to a point. They used a water based paint and clear coat finish on it. It was great looking. and used hemp material in the interior. Their idea on a green engine is where they lost me. They decided to recycle a engine out of a Caprice in a junkyard cause it was it was a LT1 but a worn out engine and trans to me isn't green and they did not bother to rebuild either one.

I have also seen reference to interior carpet made from recycled rubber.

They have so many options out there and no one knows about it because the Manufacturers don't want the public to know what they are.

I'm not to bright as far as schooling goes but I'm not so stupid that I don't know what is good for me and our environment.

 

I honestly don't know much about those particular engines. A 396 Chevy was my biggest GM. I had a Stock 430 in my 1968 Mercury Brougham, and a 440 in my 1975 T & C.

A buddy and I decided to build a fuel vapouriser for our vehicles. One of those $10.99 - 100 MPG books based on old patents. Guess what? They work! He got 66 MPG on his 396 Chevy pickup. I got 44 MPG from 6 MPG on my 440, with AC.

The new US C.A.F.E. regs are to be 27.5 MPG on a US Gallon. The Japanese set theirs at 45 MPG.

Henry's old Model T's could burn Kerosene, Farm Gas, Lamp oil, Alcohol (AKA as 100% Ethanol) back in 1907. 100 years later, we're scratching our heads to get back to that?

Now, as for upholstery, think lambs wool or leather. Using Hemp to me sounds like a couple of air-heads that want an emergency supply of Mary-Jane.

My 200 CI can meet the Japanese CAFE or get darn close by changing two springs in the distributor, on a stock setup. If I tweak the carb jets, probably more. The problem is the image of a big old wagon needing more fuel to get around, when it can be done for a whole lot less.

http://www.msdignition.com/dist_69.htm

It cost me about $300 to make the vapourizer. I saved that in two months of buying gas. No pinging, no real loss in acceleration. The downside was that I had to clean out the gum buildup because of the additives in the gasoline. If I was using Ethanol, I wouldn't have had any. And the Model A's or T's did have a pre-igniter in their systems:

http://www.oldengine.org/

http://www.barefootsworld.net/ford-t-4-beginners.html
http://www.barefootsworld.net/ford-t-specs.html

With all new techniques there are to make your own fuel from newsprint or weeds, or the old ways people solved fuel shortages during the wars and depressions, I'm sure there's a few tips we could cross-pollenate to change our gas-guzzler image as wagon drivers/owners, and have some peace from all the armchair critics, sitting in their $30,000 hybrids, plugged into the local Coal Generator at night. IMHO.

 

A fuel vapouriser? How does that work?

 

The heat comes from the exhaust at the manifold, the fuel comes in via the normal pump. Imagine a small version of a big old boiler. Several tubes inside a pressure vessel. The way its made is about an 18" long X 6" X 6" copper tank with several brass or copper tubes inside, all pressure soldered inside. The hot exhaust gas goes into the main chamber and fuel goes into the smaller tubes. The hot gas goes back into the exhaust pipe, the fuel vapour goes into a thick plate under your carburetor and mixes with the air coming in. You need the carburetor, at least until the engine warms up, so the linkage is tweaked at the choke bowl and the pump diverts more gas to the vapourizing chamber unless you floor the car.

It works like stink!
http://www.vfis.us/

http://www.mikebrownsolutions.com/bccfish.htm

Here's an Ethanol Recipe page:
http://www.recipeland.com:8080/facts/index.php/Ethanol

Build your own fuel still:
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/ethanol_motherearth/me1.html

State Of Oregon's cost studies on Weeds vs. Corn-based Ethanol (Weeds are cheaper):
http://www.oregon.gov/ENERGY/RENEW/Biomass/forum.shtml

If you're like me, we get about 10 lbs per week of newsflyers. It takes a week to get the yeast culture brewing to make Ethanol fuel. Depending on the quantity you need, you can make about 40 gallons every few days. If you subscribe to a newspaper, or your neighbours do, well ask them to save them up. Here, the building code allows me to legally store up to 400 gals of heating fuel in an Oil tank (Farmer's coop product) with a mechanical or electric pump. They just care that it meets the proper requirements. I'll never have 400 gallons prepared, maybe 100 gallons (2 oil drums (110 gallons). Yeast, Water and Newsprint, heated up with a solar water heater. Doesn't get greener than that.

Hydrogen widgets:
http://www.nutech2000.com/

Or some other widgets:
http://www.himacresearch.com/products.html

http://www.bgsoflex.com/megasquirt.html

Or use Water Injection:
http://better-mileage.com/index.html

If you're really adventurous, you could go to Diesel and burn vegetable grease from the local restaurants:
http://www.greasecar.com/mnep.cfm

I just think cheap and simple modifications make it easier for more people to make a difference today, rather than when the Governments of the day legislate throw-away cars.

Here's a link to a 1995 US Military site copy of their analysis of green cars, by the year 2015 - 8 years from now, 18 years after the report:
http://www.dau.mil/educdept/mm_dept_resources/reports/OTA-Advanced-auto-tech.pdf

Here's an Unbiased reference on all kinds of topics for ALL the countries on the planet:
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/env_co2_emi-environment-co2-emissions

What's interesting about that, is that when companies in our countries buy and sell Carbon-Credits from countries that don't pollute (who don't need help) we still get more lung diseases, deformed animals and fish, burnt out forests, etc. And the firms drag their feet making changes where they make the most money? Their logic escapes me!

And don't look to the Car Makers for backup, they blame drivers:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6339111.stm

We can even make Plastics from Fruit or Bee Honey:
http://www.k-online.de/cipp/md_k/custom/pub/content,lang,2/oid,4594/ticket,g_u_e_s_t

http://www.cbc.ca/news/story/2007/06/14/science-glucose-plastic.html

Or use alernatives (too Extreme!):
http://www.mindfully.org/Plastic/Alternatives/Alternatives-Plastic-Goettlich3aug05.htm

 

Since I'm a Proud Fairmont owner, you should meet my Green Clone:

Alan Kemp's 1982 Fairmont Wagon
http://www.austinev.org/evalbum/076.html

And a 1981 Fairmont Wagon
http://www.austinev.org/evalbum/340.html

25 Wagons all together. Limited range between charges.

What's interesting about this site and the project cars is that they are either directly or indirectly funded by the US EPA.

Notice also, that the site is right in Texas, where the President was Governor. How does the EPA manage to circumvent the Boss and promote these kinds of projects? Our new guy is a Bush-Clone, and he's making these tokens of appeasement to the public with grants. It makes sense to see what we can do here, and then be the Bridge between car-buffs on both sides of the border. Makes it a bit tougher for our Federal governments to stomp on our hobby as their kicking-dog, eh?

 

How hard is it to build a vaporizer? I didn't quiet understand the article.

 

Guess I better stick to what I know.

 

You'd need to get the book (I'll see if I can find a site). You have to dimension it according to the CFM's of your carb - so many cubic inches per max Cubic Feet per Minute of air/fuel volume, and then find a big enough location inside the engine compartment (I moved my battery to the back) and fit brackets (use big stainless duct clamps for testing. Then you've got to go to a pressure welding shop to make it up and a machine shop to make up the fuel adapter plate (usually Phenolic plastic). You could stack a few thick carb spacers/gaskets and glue them up into a hieght of 1" or so, and then bore out the entry. You're car is sucking in hot fuel vapour, so you want to use good materials. I'll find a link and post it, tonite or tomorrow.

Oops, I had it handier than I thought. They asked me to write a review way back when I lived in Mexico. It was higher at first and we had to adjust downward, so the numbers are different. I spoke to my buddy a couple years after we got back to Canada and he corrected my numbers):

http://jabi.com/store/jbp-1729m.html

 

Yeah, that electric stuff still puts you on a dog leash (electrical recharge) on your meter at home. Where's the flexibility? All they really acheive is generating the emissions at some remote power plant or up the road from a farmer's field. How much is emitted to make the batteries and the circuitry/black boxes?

Its just pushing the environment damage from the pumps to another region. And the profits to the Hydro vendor/utility from the OilCo. Still makes us subject to higher prices and emissions.

 

Is this book still available for $15.00 US ? Also with what you told me and I do a new engine swap say a 290HP 350 CI engine with a 2004R transmission which is overdrive I don't know the rear ratio.Which should get me back to 24 HWY and 19 City est mileage. What would my mileage be with this vaporizer? Cause I'd rather stick it to the oil companies and Keep my money home and start a trend.

Here is the engine in question.
http://paceperformance.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=84482

 

Yep! They've still got it as advertised. I paid about $300 to get the vapour box built, the exhaust pipe modified and the carb plate and gas pedal cable done. That's it. When the gum started to build, I'd take off the vapour tank and soak it in gas or take it to a nearby mechanic to clean it out. With Ethanol that's history.

That's a pretty normal engine to work with. I don't see any issues, and its probably small enough to let you put the vapour tank where ever you want.

 

You got 44mpg with a 440. What kind of mileage do you think I can get with a new stock 350 engine with a carb?