Buick V6 (1965 engine)

Can some one give me info on this? I just found the ad and am really interested. I've been wanting to do some thing completly differant for my truck engine for a long time and this is the same year motor as our truck. Are these good, whats the horse power, can they be built up a little old school way, where should I look for info, parts, and etc, etc,etc?



http://www.usedvictoria.com/classified-ad/8908126

 

Its a 225 cu.in.
The bore of 3.75 in (95.3 mm), and stroke of 3.4 in (86.4 mm), displacement of 225 cu in (3.7 L). This engine was used in Buick's intermediate-sized Special and Skylark models from 1964 to 1967 and Oldsmobile's mid-sized F-85/Cutlass models for 1964 and 1965. Throughout this period, the 225 cubic-inch V6 featured a one-barrel carburetor and was rated at 155 horsepower-exactly the same rating as the base version of the 215 cubic-inch aluminum V8 used from 1961 to 1963.
The V6 was dropped after the 1967 model year in favor of a conventional 250 cubic-inch inline 6 engine built by the Chevy division, and the tooling was sold to Kaiser Jeep to be used in CJ's.

 

Blackfoot otta know.

I just found some useful Buick links to parts:
http://www.buickpartsdirectory.com/

And their links page to more Buick sites:
http://www.buickpartsdirectory.com/all_links.htm

 

155hp out of a stock single bbl carbed V6 is pretty damn good. Thats as much as most V8s from the 70's through the 90's make. Now if you could find an intake to allow a Holley 500cfm 2bbl carb, you would wake it up and if you could find a 4bb intake and a holley 450cfm 4bbl, it would really come alive and get even better milage.

 

IIRC, this was actually 3/4ths of a 327 Chevy. (Well - that works out to 215 CI, but it was something like that...Probably some rod / piston diifferences as well) 90 degrees between the banks and all. Because of this, it wasn't 'naturally' balanced. (This was way before balance shafts came into use.) Probably had rather large crank counterweights, and 'soft' motor mounts to absorb the vibration and torque. I'm sure back in the 60's there was some performance equipment for it - intake manifold for a 4-barrel; headers, etc. Good luck finding that stull now.

 

Thanx for the info and links guys.

Yeah, parts I knew rite off could/would be a challenge to build it up but it's something differant than the 10 million 350 drop ins for these trucks but it's the same year motor as my truck and the gas millage would be decent. Even if I rebuid it stock I'd have more "umpf" than my inline 6, she is slowwww

Now that I have some dam good bare bones info I'm gona email the seller. Blackfoot, you da man!

 

This wasnt 3/4 a Chevy 327. Its a Buick motor, wider block and intake as well as front distributor locaton. The only thing this motor has in common with a 327 is they were both built by GM and in the same time era. It was known as the Dauntless 225 and used a much heavier flywheel than the newer evenfire Buick version to dampen vibrations resulting from the engine's firing pattern. It has a 90° bank between cylinders and an odd-fire firing pattern that include the two 'phantom' cylinders from the V8 pattern. Buick sold the tooling for this engine to Kaiser in 1967, as the demand for the engine was declining steadily in an era of V8s.

The 198 or Fireball V6 was the first of the Buick V6's and dervived from the Ever popular 215 V8 and still used by Rover today.

 

OK - shoulda checked my info.
So it's based on the 330 Buick V8?

 

You go over some of these techy threads, like this topic and realize just how much History we bring to the picture. Good to see.

 

Buick didn't make the 330, that was Olds. It was based from the 300 block, same bore and stroke -2 cyl.
Buick v8's:
215, 264, 300, 322, 340, 350, 364, 400, 401, 421, 425, 430, 455

 

I read somewhere that Buick also licensed it to AMC.And when Chrysler bought AMC,the engine went back to Buick,as part of the deal...A few years back,had the chance to buy a 63 Buick Special wagon.Only had 5 grand.They wanted 5 grand for it.It was in mid-restoration and had no seatbelts,carpeting or headliner...It also had no V6...If it had,I would've bought it with all it's shortcomings,

 

In 1965, Kaiser-Jeep began using the Buick 225 in CJ's. It was called the Dauntless(meaning Fearless) 225. In 1967 Buick sold the tooling for this engine to Kaiser-Jeep. When AMC solely bought Jeep in 1972, they replaced the V6 with AMC I-6, that same block design is still being used as the 4.0 I-6 version in modern Jeeps.

Applications for the Buick named Dauntless 225:
1966-1971 Jeepster, Commando, CJ5, CJ6

 

Blackfoot that is some great info there

 

Thank ya, kindly.

 

Stoopid car news magazines...I think I got the info about Buick licensing the V6 to AMC from Car And Driver.Who also claimed,in a TV show a few years back,that the XR7 Cougar was sport tuned to compete with Jaguars and win...Had a Youtube conversation with a guy that was a mechanic at a Mercury dealer at the time.XR7 was the luxury trim package,nothing more.XR7's were just Mustangs underneath...Not that that's a bad thing.It's just not going to help you outrun a Jaguar on a windy road.