1958 Plymouth Custom Suburban rim question

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  1. vintagenc2

    vintagenc2 New Member

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    i picked a a nice barn find . 58 Custom Suburban wagon. I need to put cheap wheels on it,while working on it. i think original rims have had it.
    Any idea what rims would fit this bolt pattern. Prob want to do 15" and used tires until i get her running. Any ideas?
     
  2. Stormin' Norman

    Stormin' Norman Well-Known Member

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    Mopar was pretty good about keeping their bolt patterns the same on the gull-size exner-designed models until 1964, from 1957 to 1964. I'm pretty sure that even full-sized Buick rims fit too, (15").
     
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    vintagenc2 New Member

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    thanks, i'll hit the junk yard tomorrow see what i can find,
     
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    Stormin' Norman Well-Known Member

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    OrthmannJ Always looking for old ford crew cabs

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    Fod Wheels

    I put 01 Mustang wheels on they Fury (64) same bolt patern.

    Don't know what Ma Mopar was using for bolt paterns in 58, but they're probly the same. So my guess is some Ford wheels would work.
     
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    Stormin' Norman Well-Known Member

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    I seem to remember that too. Ford 15" wheels.
     
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    BTW :slap: DON'T FORGET THE TWO WHEELS ON THE DRIVERS SIDE ARE REVERSE THREAD(y) DON'T ASK, JUST TRUST ME. CHANCES ARE REAL GOOD THAT ON A '58 THEY PROBABLY HAVE NOT BEEN SWAPPED OUT:evilsmile:
     
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    OOPS, CRS IZ GETTIN' ME AGAIN. THAT BOLT PATTERN FOR FULL SIZE CARZ IZ 4 1/2" ON 14" AND 15" CHRYSLER WHEELS. AND YOUR EASIEST SHORT TERM FIX FOR " JUST ROLLERS" IZ TO STUFF INNER TUBES IN UM'. MY SHORT TERM LASTED 20 YEARS AND I NEVER DID HAVE TO ADD ANY AIR TO 'UM:evilsmile:
     
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    OrthmannJ Always looking for old ford crew cabs

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    I have a busted tire iron to prove that statement.
    When I was young and knew everything I needed to change the rear tire on the drivers side on the Fury.
    Busted the tire iron, soaked in WD-40, put the impact to it (remember the young and knew everything comment) wouldn't budge. Its a wonder I didn't snap the stud. Of course I ended up calling a tire shop to ask instead of asking my Dad which I should have done in the first place.
    Right side of the car right hand thread, left side of the car left hand thread.:oops:
     
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    I've never heard of such a thing. Right side, right threaded, left side left threaded. Where is the logic in that. Orthman, I'll bet anybody any amount of money you were not the only one to break a lug wrench trying to loosen it the wrong way. How long did Chrysler do that for? I can't see any valid reasoning behind it.
     
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    Woops. Got bumped to page 2. Better add the quote so this makes sense:

    I thought it had to do with concern that the lug nuts might loosen up while driving. Obviously that theory has been disproved.
     
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    I did see a tire pass me once. I was slowing down at a cloverleaf and a Chevy impala lost a wheel, fell down and scraped to a quick halt. The wheel was determined to keep on schedule.:slap:

    Mopar was used to doing this for the Military, so they carried it on after the war. The Army's Deuces were using wheels between makes and Mopar noticed that a lot of folks were 'borrowing', so they told the Army that one way they could track the lost inventory was to count wheel nuts, if they could supply theirs with these bolts. They even made the hole ID larger so that Ford wheels wouldn't seat properly as well as the hub diameter was larger than Ford wheels. That's what I was told by our Electro-Mech Tech instructors anyway.
     
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    Logic? Reason?

    Snoot. After 40+ years in the Mopar camp the only thing that's ever come up in conversation iz the centrifugal fource issue going counter clock wise to the thread on the left side. 1930s engineering logic I guess!:slap: 1970 waz the last year! OH HOW SLOWLY THE WHEELS TURN, PUN-PUN:rofl2: BTW, There iz and has been an "L" stamped into all the the lugs that are still made for the purests:cheers: Jer
     
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    The back-asswards bolt pattern doesn't affect the wheels, just the brake drums. My '53 has left hand studs on the left side, I just went thru hell finding 10 useable ones when I had the brakes done.
    I'm not sure how long Chrysler did it but it was something about "safety". Some big trucks still use that system.
    And Stormin Norman is correct, Ford wheels will fit.
     

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