new guy from The Netherlands

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  1. Harry Clamshell

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    WOW....those are funny pix! The parking SPOTS aren't even big enough for an old American wagon!:rofl2:
     
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    Hey Rob, How thick are those paving stones? AND, what kind of gravel and then ground/weed preventer do they use below? I've been debating about doing that here, at home, but I haven't seen a job done as well as those parking areas, like that nice reddish Plymouth wagon is. Is there a City standard or something or a DIY site with pics, cross-sections?
     
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    Most common sizes here are:

    • 200x50 mm - approx. 100 pc/m2
    • 210x70 mm - approx. 70 st/m2)
    • 200x100 mm - approx. 45 st/m2)

    Halfstone / elbow / twill(?) / block structure
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    Did my drive way myself: only used good white sand and a vibration plate, on top of that using the (special) bricks.
    Haven't found a good site though.
     
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    Thanks for that. Do you change thickness, depending on traffic? For instance, walkways = thinner, driveway = thicker?

    Secondly, I used tar paper (building paper) under my 1/4 pea-gravel 2 summers ago, and the weeds are popping up again. Do you use any kind of ground cover under the white sand?
     
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    Must say I'm not an expert at all on this.
    There is a huge variety those stones; the measurements mentioned above are the most common for roads. For pavements they use 30x30x5 cm (concrete, not like the hardened clay bricks for the roads)
    Those bricks hardly wear... in Amsterdam and other older cities they're used for centuries already.
    They are laid very tied to each other (I use at least 20cm of white sand beneath them), and chinks filled with white sand once laid, so the only weed that pops-up after a few years is very small (and only occurs at spots which are not used)
    You better not use bricks with an open structure at the surface in shaded/moisty ares due to moss.

    The only thing I can add is the difference between the 2nd and 3rd example; although they look the same; it has to do with driving direction. So the third is used for streets and second can be used on parking lots. If you look close to the photos you'll see what I mean.

    Although more a commercial for that small wheel thingy; here you get a bit of an impression:

    another:



    Sorry for high jacking this thread :hide:
     
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    I did the hi-jack Rob. My apologies. It's good stuff to know about, and I knew that Germany used it in the smaller towns as street pavement (I was near (Farfanugen?) Hanover in 1994), but never knew anyone in Europe to ask for details. Thanks again.

    EDIT: Got a real chuckle about the 'bosses' sitting on lawnchairs, doing time measurements. ;)
     
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    Welcome, and very cool pictures. I like the way the old cars dwarf the newer ones.
     
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    Buick fans around the world

    HI, welcome to the club! :Welcome:Aren't those big ol' Buick wagons wonderful. I have a '88 Lesabre wagon my self. Take a look at it! Glad to see that some exist across the globe! Keep it alive. Best wishes!!!! img_0332.jpg
     

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