Help ID original 67 squire wheels and wheel covers.

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  1. Dr B Smith

    Dr B Smith Well-Known Member

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    Does anyone know which wheels are correct for the 67 squire? I am trying to get an antique plate for the registration, and the state says you need correct original rims/wheel covers. I do not have that on the a car now as you can see and I dont want to get a regular plate due to the incorrect rims.

    I am guessing they are bottom wheel in the pic:

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    These are the wheel covers I am guessing were stock on squires that will fit the rims:
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  2. $arge

    $arge New Member

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    mines a 66 and i have the same wheel as the one in the bottom and i also have the same style hubcap but it says ford on it. ill see if the wife will lend me the camera tamarra
     
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    Man, that's hard. It's a Squire so you should be able to find wheel discs, unless the build sheet or the options were in the VIN.
     
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    most of the time the hubcaps were decided right there at the Dealership.

    i cant believe they care about the rims...but original caps makes sense.

    hmmm...somewhere in this mess i have the F&M hubcap book....i'll look!!
     
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    tbirdsps New Member Charter Member

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    I thought California was about the most anal state. All we have to prove is year of manufacture to get "historic" vehicle plates. 25 years old. Basically everything from 1920 - 1982. 1920 and older get "horseless carriage" plates.

    There are exceptions but in either case very restrictive on when you can drive 'em. One interesting note. If I were to get "historic" vehicle plates I still have to get it emissions tested every other year. So, present and functional emissions equipment will actually improve the value of a vehicle here even if it's exempt from testing...all pre-1976.
     
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    A Model-T with a Catalytic Converter is worth more... But you gave me an idea! I've got to check here to see if we have 'Historic' plates. It seems that they only let you add more value on replacement costs if the car cost more than $50,000. As an Historic car, maybe its different.
     
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    I really dont care about which plain wheels I get as long as the correct hubcaps fit on them. So here is what I have found:

    I think these are correct hubcaps?? Any thoughts?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...STRK:MEWA:IT&viewitem=&item=270189941769&rd=1

    Here are 65-66 ford rims..Do you guys think they are the same as 67? If you look at the centers around the stud holes, the pattern in the metal is different from the white wheels at the top of this post.
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...STRK:MEWA:IT&viewitem=&item=320185161007&rd=1

    This set of two looks promising and identical to the white sample one.
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...STRK:MEWA:IT&viewitem=&item=180184113475&rd=1
     
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    iarent old fords a 4.5 bolt on pattern? i looked in a book that my wife got at the library and those hubcaps arent on any cars. i think its like The Rev said, it was at the dealer select kinda item. as long as they're sixties styling and not plastic spinner type you should be good !! lol
     
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    Wow, I didn't know Pa. is that picky about which cars they will issue antique tags to. Do they really do a physical inspection of the car? What if you only have three hubcaps? two?

    From what I've seen in old Ford literature, you could typically get two or three different hubcaps on a car, according to the trim level or options offered. You might be able to do a Google image search for your car and see what shows up in the photos you find.

    If Pa. does physically look over the car, how is the inspector going to know you don't have the correct wheels/hubcaps? And if they know, THEY should tell you! Heck, get through the government paperwork hassle with some wheels and hubcaps that look appropriate and then if you want to have the exact wheels, at least you can aquire them on your own timeline. My two cents. The DMV has plenty of other work to do without hassling you.

    Barry, born in Pa. and happy to be living in Virginia!:D:D:D
     
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    After my last post I remembered that I have the 1967 Ford wagon 16-page brochure! (Before I got my Colony Park I was seriously hoping to get a 67 Ford wagon and I picked up the brochure at Carlisle).

    Paging through it, I am seeing the hubcap from the image you posted. The same hubcap is shown on the Country Squire, the Country Sedan, and the Ranch Wagon.

    On the back of the brochure, it lists the Ford full size tires as 8.15" x 15". (The Fairlane wagons and Falcon wagons came with 7.75x14" tires.)

    Good luck, and stand your ground with those DMVers!
     
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    pages from the brochure

    I scanned four relevant pages for you, some pages have fold-outs so it's not easy to scan every page or I would. Anyway, these show the wheel covers, and the options pages are interesting.

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    I am sure that it does not matter to PA DOT what type of hubcap I put on the car. The issue is that the car I bought, came with very nice late model crown victoria mag wheels. They may or may not pass PA DOT antique plate status since they are obviosly not stock. I have to send pics in from all four angles of the car with the application. I am just assuming they wont pass it.

    The messanger service did tell me she has seen a number of applications come back due to the wrong type of rim or non oem type on the car. There is no way to mount hubcaps to the crown vic rims, unless I use sticky tack:dancing: . The prior owner sent me 4 dog dish caps which I am fairly sure they were stock on older ford trucks.

    So I do plan to change the crown vic rims and tires to the original squire type, and I dont want to buy a non matching set and then have to buy another to get the original type when I redo the car. Also, another concern is that the if and when I find a nice fair priced OEM set of wheel covers, I want to make sure I have the correct rims for them to stay attached to.

    Thanks for all the posts, and that is a great brochure. I think the wheel covers I posted, do match the brochure. I would like to have someone tell me for certain what rims I need to get.

    Brian
     
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    I can't imagine that DOT could really tell if you had the exact cap/wheel.
     
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    I would avoid wheels advertised as any bolt pattern other than five-lug 4.5, and while those hubcaps look very nice, the price seems steep to me. I was running the original hubcaps on my Colony Park but one wheel kept losing hubcaps and it's no fun to suddenly hit the brakes to park and run back to retrieve your hubcap from a ditch or the middle of the road, especially if it's one you just paid $50 to $75 for!

    Maybe you can also try making contact with a 67 owner near you, maybe through the Galaxie club? This web page looks like it hasn't been updated in years (!) but maybe the phone number is still good
    http://threerivers.galaxieclub.com/

    Here's a classic Ford forum you also might check out for help

    http://www.fordforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=517

    You could inquire there to see if any owners live near you in western Pa. Someone might even have an extra set of wheels and/or hubcaps they want to get rid of.
     
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    those look like the correct hubz to me... good find.
    id ride up there with some bare neked rimz and say that im still lookin for the correct caps or i didnt want to put em on and risk loosing them.
    either way good find cplony park!
     

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