Ok, right now I'm just looking, but I wanted opinions on getting a new muffler set up for the barge. The original is looking pretty sad, and its a single muffler... so I want to replace it with a dual muffler set up, and hopefully improve airflow and HP and generally make it run and sound better. My restrictions are I don't want it to sound like a dragster screaming down the street, nor do I want it to drone, but I would like it to bring a few peoples attention to "hey that sounds good, muscular" not "OH MY GOD MY EARS" or "that JERK is annoying" so it has to have sound but still be quiet enough in the car to carry a conversation without shouting, and not become a cop magnet! So anyone have any suggestions on muffler brand (Borla, Magnaflow, Flowmaster, etc)? Any suggestion on pipe size? Any suggestion on anything else I should upgrade other than pipes and muffler to increase flow and hp? The engine is a stock 460. ETA: Yes, I know exhaust choices are personal, what drones and sounds like hell to one guy makes another drool.
Walker Dynomax Turbos. Consistently out-flow the constipated (no)Flowmasters in magazine tests without the annoying drone. A 460 needs 2.5" pipes. I go the long-body (21") versions for my 67 Olds. They are a little louder than I expected for that size, but still a nice throaty sound.
I'm a big fan of Flowmasters. I have had them on several rigs. They are more expensive than most, but not the most expensive. Personally I love the way they sound, but they do make having a conversation while driving more difficult. It's like you said earlier. What one person loves, another may find totally annoying. It's all about personal taste.
I,of course,have the similar '73 Country Sedan. AFAIK,the muffler and clamps are the only parts available for my car. My problem is FUMES coming in the windows,and I am told there is no leak. If there were a dual exhaust setup for this car,I probably would have wanted one,but not so much now,since spending so much time and money on the car made me doubtful. If the Y-pipe or the two-piece tailpipe ever rusted through,I wouldn't know what the heck to do! I've replaced both exhaust manifolds and been through 5 mufflers (ignition fault/backfires). So...what was my point? Oh,yeah,where could anyone find pipes for these type cars? Not to mention sideways wagon tailpipes...
It would definitely be a matter of an exhaust shop making the piping from stock, but that gets pricey.
Indeed it does. I remember back in 1977, being asked to leave a muffler shop in my attempt to find a stock pair of tailpipes for my '56 Squire. Could the sedan type be made to fit? Never found out.
I already had dual exhaust and a crossover pipe on my '66 Starfire. I replaced the mufflers with glasspacks and kept the resonators intact. Like Joe Padovano claims, mine rumbled in a deep tone and wasn't excessively loud, during idle speeds and disciplined driving (which wasn't my style, back then and costed me my license). It was hard to tell, if I had any power increase, because there was just too much power there to begin with, not forgetting that '66 and '67 were the peak horsepower years. The combination of air cleaner lid turned upside down Quadrajet roar with the new exhaust sound certainly was enough to generate tostesterone levels to go over the top. I'm sure, equal lengthed headers would have added plenty more fun to it and maybe would have even raised the decibles a bit.
yep. installing flowmasters is like putting a barn door up in the middle of the exhaust flow, they do everything except flow. flows are by far the worst mufflers out there. dynomax or magnaflo have them beat, hooker aero chambers are nice too.
Everyone that has stayed in the car parts business the last half-century has definitely branched out.
You have to or you end up folding... I'm thinking of probably going with a Borla (since I have them on my Crown Victoria) and have pipes custom welded since they don't make them readily available for wagons, or even the sedan equivalent.
