Hydrogen!! Yeah,.. I know.

Hey guys.
Please don't laugh! I know. It a lot to ask, but I have been doing some experimenting on the old wagon and I have found that if I add "X" amount ltr per minute of Brown's Gas to the engine, as well as a Snow water injection kit, I am doing much better in my 1/4 mile times. I want some opinions but be nice will ya please. I have heard enough of how it doesn't work yet I have evidence to the contrary. I have run this before and after the installation of the water Methenol injection and the result is that it runs better with the gas in either case?!

I have also found that I can run pump gas instead of racing fuel and still get good times. Better than just racing fuel alone. Yes, I have done a series of tests over the summer and everything I found, points to hydrogen being a pretty good power adder? I mean, it's not a turbo or nitrous but I have picked up a full second in a 3600 lb car in the 1320?

I have a schematic (for free!) of the set up if anybody is interested but I won't give out all the particulars for my own reasons. I am generating the HHO in the car with a device of my own creation and use it in conjunction with gasoline. It is not one of those things you see for sale on the internet and it is being generated and controlled by a rather complex gizmo thingy I came up in the garage. It is all self generating and contained including storing the gas. Which was the toughest area of study by the way. Hydrogen doesn't store well! (Found that out the hard way! "KABOOM!" HA! Scared the cr-p out of the wife!!)

Anyway, This thing seems to be working!? Have I hit upon something here?
Gimme some of your thoughts but as I said, Please keep it nice. I don't wanna hear any more of how much bullsh-t Hydrogen gas generating is.

OK then. Let's (Me = cringing!) hear what you have to say.

 

the snow methanol injection kit has been around for about 10 yrs now but the idea isnt new . water and methanol lower cumbustion chambers temps allowing for more timing also helps to clear carbon off the valves

 

Where are you guys in the south gonna get snow?

 

I wondered that. At least we can make our own methanol gas.

 

The past ten years our snow has been imported from China.

Sorry unkldave! I don't have a clue as to what you are talking about.

 

Me neither but like when I was in school I fake it.

 

miami has had it for yrs

 

Snow performance, It's a kit that i thought was used more on diesel engines, especially turbocharged, to lower the intake temp. My buddy has one on his duramax, and you can feel the instant difference.

Being a mechanic though, there's something about injecting water in your intake that don't mix. Makes me cringe at the thought.

 

Hey Toby. As a mechanic, I am surprised you don't feel well about running water through you engine? It has been around since the early 1800's and was a major player during WW II. A bunch of the turbo guys use it to avoid "pinging" and now it is all the rage with imports.
I believed we have all turned a wrench or two so you had aught to look into it. It might let your car burn pump gas and make more power due to more timing! Pretty cool when mixed with methanol at a 50/50 mix

 

Jeez! Texas people! Read the text and then when you have time, look up browns gas on the internet. It's not just for porn!

 

Since water injection has been used in combustion as a power adder since the 1890's I suppose I should try and shed a little light on the subject.

Water injection does more than just clean valves and pistons. It raises the combustion temperature of gasoline and effectively raises the octane level. This means that you don't have to pay $15 + dollars a gallon for racing fuel. It has a steam engine effect in the cylinder during combustion. The 1600-1 ratio of water to vapor is enough to substantially assist the explosion of the gasoline to push (Not pound!) the piston down on the power stroke. This bit of extra pressure makes for tight piston rings and lessens the chance of blowing a head gasket by removing any heat producing impurities that tend to cling to the combustion chambers right where the heads meet the block.

In a 50/50 mix with methanol or some other alcohol, it cools the air charge even more and makes for more timing and that makes for more power. Denser air charge means more power for less fuel. That means less pollution and that is good for the trees and birdies! It allows for the use of pourer quality gas in a high compression engine and that makes for good stuff in your wallet! It creates a denser air charge by cooling the incoming air. It has become VERY popular with the import crowd to keep their turbocharged engines in peak form. And there is nothing in water that doesn't burn. Nothing but Hydrogen and Oxygen! Nothing to worry about. Oh yeah, one more thing. The byproduct of burning water is only more water!!

I have been using water/methanol injection in most of my cars over the last thirty five years, both naturally aspirated and supercharged engines and I have always made an average of 35 hp more with it that without.

So lets see. It cleans your engine. It make for more power. It does no harm to the environment. It's mostly free! And,.. IT WORKS!!! I just don't see a bad side to this? Here is a link if you want to add it on the cheap.
http://www.turbomirage.com/water.html

Now then, What did you think of the hydrogen text?

 

Being young, and mostly doing stock type repairs, i had no idea! Now i've got something to research!

 

Now I remember Snow Performance. Not being a diesel owner I forgot. Ya gotta explain these things more to us. Even though I'm not fromTexas some of their thinking drifts across the Gulf.
And that Brown gas is what we make when we try too hard to create our own methanol. That brown stuff is the gas turned to solid.
Yes, I remember water injection kits being sold in the little pages hotrod books and Popular Mechanics way back. Desolves carbon.

 

Actually, Browns gas is the deposition of hydrogen gas and oxygen in a 2 - 1 mix respectively, but not in a liquid water form. Highly stable but explosive as hell under the right conditions.
Brown is the guy who discovered it. He used it to burn thru rock in his home. It is that powerful! H asked the auto industry if they could find a use for it as a power adder but was sent home with a shot reputation that followed him the rest of his life. I found out about the stuff as a kid in So Cal. but never got around to trying it on a car until I saw a bunch of vids on youtube. It'll never replace gasoline but it could make for a great additive. My own research points in that direction. The brown stuff in the jar is the electrolyte after it is done being used.

 

The auto industry, fuel manufacturers, tire makers, etc. killed more good ideas than they created. It's all about greed and money.
They have fed us more brown stuff than most people realize!