Seat belts?

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  1. 66mopar wagon

    66mopar wagon New Member

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    okay how many seat belts are provided in a 6 passenger 66 monaco station wagon? mine came with 4. I remember my 6 passenger 61 safari wagon came with 0. when I was young the safety feature in my dads car was I had to ride in the back never allowed in the front seat. Know you have kids in car seats then booster seats then maybe dad will let you in the front or in my case maybe papa will let you. You would think you would get 6 belts .I would at least like 3 belts in the back.Anyone have an extra red middle red back seat belt?I am trying to get my interior pictures up hopefully soon Keeps saying web page is down
     
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    I believe that was right around the time that seatbelts were just becoming madatory in a lot of areas so it might be hard to pinpoint just what the heck was going on. My '67 Ranch Wagon has two bench seats and there are only 4 belts for the outside seats, you sit in the middle then no belt for you.
     
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    ModelT1 Still Lost in the 50's

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    Kids were tougher back then. They didn't need any stinkin seat belts. We jumped around from seat to seat and played. Those of us who lived seem just fine!:banghead3:
    Time to visit the salvage yards, auto parts stores, and swap meets. Just be careful of the rotted older belts.
     
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    When it comes to seat belts, you can bet brand new in the original style. They may not be factory original, but they are a HELL of a lot safer. If I remember right, rear seat belts were a factory option, so the mounting points are built into the car, too.
     
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    :rofl2:..66...i can get you NEW ones...dont sweat it!
    just remember...our laws are different...the law states that if it didnt come with it...then you dont need it.!
    but if you put it in...then you have to use it
     
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    I got a major ticket for this seat belt crap a few months back. As a rule I don't wear them. They are cumbersom and are annoying. I never use them. I don't believe they save lives in short. I got a ticket for this in my 62 skylark. I told the idiot cop the car wasn't build with them off the factory and I'm not putting them in. Still got the ticket.

    I fought that dumb cop in court .. and won. The california law says you must wear a seat belt in a moving vehical. It dosent say I need to retro my car if the car wasn't built with them.

    It was nice to take the cops ego down a few notches.
     
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    ModelT1 Still Lost in the 50's

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    I believe this is the law in most states. However, I do believe seat belts save lives.
    Many don't know it, including Police, but if your car did not come with signal lights and only one tail light you can leave it original. Again, it's safer to add these, plus a third brake light. Maybe a 4th, 5th, or more. But those other idiots don't look anyway!:cry:

    A hint about seat belts. Adjust the lap belt loosely or if a three point, add a small clip near the top to hold the belts looser. Not legal, but you are wearing it and you can quickly remove the clip if needed.
    I'd never ever do this. But been told it works.;)
     
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    This is probably the most authoritative site on the WWW. Factory Sales brochures, listing optional equipment, including optional seatbelts. I think some cars, like mine (1979) didn't even have any for the rear passengers! I installed them, because they were optional on sedans and I found a set and used the factory floor mounts that were plugged with rubber plugs.

    http://www.lov2xlr8.no/index.html

    Here's the US brochures, back to before most of us were born! Some have spec sheets for the optional widgets/tires/wheels, etc.

    http://www.lov2xlr8.no/broch1.html

    I would think that a judge looking at the original brochure would send the ticketing cop back to ticket school.:evilsmile:
     
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    ModelT1 Still Lost in the 50's

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    Small town in the south. Young know-it-all cops. Kid with a hot and nice running El Camino. = Problems.
    Son with his 1976 El Camino was getting all kinds of hassle, and tickets. His 76 El Camino did not have shoulder belts. I believe they came out about then on CARS. An El Camino is listed as a TRUCK. Just another pain in his pattotie many times when he drove to town.
    Not that he didn't need hassled for too dark windows, loud exhaust, burning rubber, speeding, red dash lites, LED strip across below tailgate, no hood, and a few other minor things. :banghead3:
    Oh to be a teen again!:yippee:
     
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    My dad was the teen in our house! We built up a 1958 Imperial LY1 392 Hemi for racing in an aluminum bread van, as a funnycar. 950 HP, with the supercharger, dual holley carbs, the stock dual carb manifold and solid lifters from a D300 1958 Chrysler.

    When we were $15,000 into it (1971), the NHRA changed the rules and wouldn't allow vans on our tracks. Dad always wanted a convertible, so he picked up a nice 1965 Dodge, which we restored - new top, interior, paint.. and the Hemi. We took off the supercharger and added a live hood scoop.

    Within 2 months, knowing all the local cops who went to our scrapyard, he scored over $6,000 in traffic and speeding tickets! I bought my half in the car so he could pay his tickets without getting my mother on his case. She got her fair share in it too. The woman was a speed-freak. He just loved to peel at the lights.:rofl2:

    We had bucket seats and shoulder and lap belts in that car. We got it fitted with 4-wheel 11" disc brakes. It could WHOA, as well as it could GO.:D Even the 3 passenger seat in the back had both, especially since it was a convertible. You could get thrown out from the back, if the driver stood on the brakes. The engine really made the front end heavy, although we never broke the torsion bars. Heck of a beast! Too much power for the street.
     
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    Starting on January 1, 1968 seat belts became mandatory in the USA. Shoulder and lap belts in the outboard seating positions and lap belts for the remainder, except for convertibles. You could get front shoulder belts as an option in my '68 GTO convertible, very rare.

    I can't drive without belts now, other than not wanting to have my face rearranged by the steering wheel, windshield, or worse, they keep me from sliding over and crushing my wife during high G left hand Steve McQueen style turns.:rofl:
     
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    Very true...a much better option than a used original.

    I believe that California law says pre-1968 vehicles are not required to have seat-belts, but if such a vehicle is so equipped, the belts must be used while it is in motion. My '63 Falcon didn't have seat belts until 1997, and it was against my wishes that they went in.
     
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    Starting on January 1, 1968 seat belts became mandatory in the USA. Shoulder and lap belts in the outboard seating positions and lap belts for the remainder, except for convertibles.

    Still a question--------------Was this also the time when the shoulder belts were mandatory? I remember the first law was only for lap belts. It's hard to believe it's been so long ago.
    So many laws protecting us against ourselves since!
     
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    o k so if you have 5 people in the car and only 4 belts does the guy in the middle of the back seat get a ticket or is he exempt because the car only came with 4 seat belts?
     
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    F-27, I would wish that for your safety's sake, you would start wearing 3-point belts. Virtually all scientific published reports on the subject confirm that they save lives.

    Imagine yourself in this scenario:
    - Driving on a major surface street, speed around 45mph. You have a green light approaching an intersection. Just as you enter the intersection, a car going in the opposite direction, waiting in the left turn lane suddenly turns right in front of you. You have very little time to react, only swerving to the right slightly before the impact occurs. Your car, immediately slows to 0mph. Unfortunately, your body doesn't. You react and brace yourself against the steering wheel, but the force of the impact immediately breaks on of your wrists. Your body slams into the steering wheel (no air bag - you're driviing an older vehicle). Your body deflects off the steering wheel and your head impacts the windshield near the top edge. I would hesitate to state what further injuries you might sustain, but they could be considerable.

    Don't fool yourself into thinking you can counter the force of momentum in an accident - you can't. Sure, in minor crashes you might come out OK, but you have to protect yourself as much as you can.
     

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